tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8915423025917785375.post7793658673089314496..comments2024-03-26T22:40:30.265-07:00Comments on Dishin' It Out: DEJA VUConnie Vineshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17835205487088200480noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8915423025917785375.post-85941166670461621402008-04-05T19:13:00.000-07:002008-04-05T19:13:00.000-07:00Ginger, I'm sorry to hear that you have had such t...Ginger, I'm sorry to hear that you have had such trouble with these covers. All are beautiful and I think that you should have been allowed to use them. I hope that all ends up working out for you with regards to things.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8915423025917785375.post-59076156031419456012008-04-04T01:45:00.000-07:002008-04-04T01:45:00.000-07:00Ginger, I'm sorry to hear of this harrassment. If ...Ginger, I'm sorry to hear of this harrassment. If I were the photographer, I'd be thrilled to see my picture used on your cover and appalled that someone else laid claim to it this way. Sheesh. Some people!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8915423025917785375.post-85856490609181706762008-04-03T21:52:00.000-07:002008-04-03T21:52:00.000-07:00Ginger Spice,Don't let these people get you down. ...Ginger Spice,<BR/>Don't let these people get you down. Sounds to me like they're afraid of your success with that particular book cover.They need to get a life and leave you alone. Gosh, what is their problem that they have nothing better to do than stalk you, harass you and aggravate you about your book cover? Sounds a little twisted to me...best of luck to you and I know you will get a much better cover for Sarah's Journey...TabsTabithahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05307089926289724295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8915423025917785375.post-39554927402863974922008-04-03T20:31:00.000-07:002008-04-03T20:31:00.000-07:00I can not believe in this day and age where stock ...I can not believe in this day and age where stock photos are used on all kinds of things that this would be an issue for a publishing house. I don't care how small or large. I am sorry you're having this kind of trouble. No one's career should be marred by this sort of unprofessional behavior. If this house is so concerned about the cover art of other houses they are no doubt trying to shift the focus of their substandard titles. Or perhaps lackluster edititing or maybe a combination of both. <BR/><BR/>It sounds as if they need to fire the "co-publisher (who needs to denote themselves with that kind of title?) who sounds like a Me Me Me kind of person and worry about what they want to do once the house folds. <BR/><BR/>Did you say there is already complaints out at P&E and Piers? If so good. Writers listen to these places. Yeah, I hope these people are learning to practice "do you want fries with that?" This industry is really too small to be making such a big stink.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8915423025917785375.post-75544894736568825862008-04-03T19:02:00.000-07:002008-04-03T19:02:00.000-07:00All I can say is WOW! No, wait I have one more com...All I can say is WOW! No, wait I have one more comment...Are you serious? This goes beyond petty and unprofessional. I'm shocked that another publishing house would even contact another house warning about stock cover art. Hellooo...it's stock cover art. I wish you could post the name of this house so as to warn new writers such as myself of where NOT to submit. It sounds as if your old house is run by people that are shallow minded not to mention extremly insecure if they feel the need to hassel an author that is no longer with them. Are these people per chance frustrated writers??? Don't they have their own authors they should be taking care of...a house to run? It's these sort of stories that circulate in this industry that give small press houses a bad name.<BR/><BR/>Although I don't know you, Ginger, I wish you all the best and agree with other posters...yes, you're clearly taking the high ground but you should report this behavior to iStock. This publishing house is now interfering with the ability for other artists to make money. They have stepped over the line and are messing with something that is none of their business. If they don't want their covers to look similar to someone else's, then they SHOULD NOT use stock photos. Shame on them!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8915423025917785375.post-64648619789324353642008-04-03T18:38:00.000-07:002008-04-03T18:38:00.000-07:00Ginger, I don't know what I can add to all the won...Ginger, I don't know what I can add to all the wonderful support you received through these comments, but I'll try. I'm so glad you took the high road here and are finding a way to pass the information on. We know they-the publisher and alleged co-publisher- will get what's coming to them in the end. I agree with the others, you definitely need to let iStockphoto know this happened! I also wonder if there's a way to get these so-called professionals to stop stalking you!Michellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03884928225913639299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8915423025917785375.post-75279173283067625642008-04-03T18:03:00.000-07:002008-04-03T18:03:00.000-07:00I am proud to know I have such a worthy author wri...I am proud to know I have such a worthy author writing for EP. You are incredible and deffinately the better person. The tact of some people these days has a way of getting us all down and I'm glad to see how proud you stand. Either way you know you have my support.<BR/>Hugz<BR/>AllyAllyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17322315643492339741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8915423025917785375.post-64205564556203552972008-04-03T16:23:00.000-07:002008-04-03T16:23:00.000-07:00Ging... it's so wrong... sounds rather strange to ...Ging... it's so wrong... sounds rather strange to me... what is the underlying problem here?? I've seen many book covers that are similar... but... so what... that second book cover Julie created was beautiful... and I don't see why it should should have been a problem. I'd have cried too. But, being the professional you are... you moved on... good for you! I'm ticked for you! You didn't deserve this. Big hug to you... RitaRita Karnopphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02789747545409430010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8915423025917785375.post-59894955533311463072008-04-03T16:02:00.000-07:002008-04-03T16:02:00.000-07:00Ginger, this is the most unethical and unprofessio...Ginger, this is the most unethical and unprofessional behavior I have ever seen from a publisher. And I've been around this business for more than 20 years. But for those who read Ginger's blog, I want you to know that I was published by the same publisher. I, too, had a cover pulled two months before the release of my book in 2006. All the promotion I had done went to waste. I found a cover artist who designed another cover, which turned out to be more eyecatching and much more beautiful than the original. So all was not lost.<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately, a year and 3 months later, it happened a second time. Another contracted book was supposed to be published in December 2007, but once again, the temperamental "co-publisher" (and I use that term loosely) pulled the cover because she was miffed over a few authors talking about her rantings. (That's a whole other story. Actually, a quite appalling one.) So once again, I was left with a lot of costly promo material and no cover, and this time no book. <BR/><BR/>Not to go into details and beat a dead horse, suffice to say there are many of us who will never submit to this unprofessional publisher again. In fact, if we're asked our thoughts of the publisher and staff, well let's just say none of us will lie about our experiences.<BR/><BR/>BTW, this publisher has warnings against it at P&E and Piers Anthony sites. <BR/><BR/>I guess the moral to all this is, be careful who you sell your books to. This would have never happened if the publisher was a NY publisher and not a small press. Lesson learned. Next time I will do my homework before I submit to future publishers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8915423025917785375.post-81070748036768845682008-04-03T14:41:00.000-07:002008-04-03T14:41:00.000-07:00I really feel for you, Ginger. It's so upsetting w...I really feel for you, Ginger. <BR/><BR/>It's so upsetting when these things happen, especially when others get away with it time after time. You can't help but feel singled-out and picked on, and although you know it's not your fault, I know how awful it makes you feel.<BR/><BR/>I'm so sorry this has happened to you. I'll send you some really positive, healing energy today.<BR/><BR/>You know how they say: The best revenge is living well, in this case: The best revenge is coming up with a better cover than they do - every single time!<BR/><BR/>Cheers<BR/><BR/>Brittany KingstonBrittany Kingstonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16971510838732463101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8915423025917785375.post-7716225838645834672008-04-03T14:09:00.000-07:002008-04-03T14:09:00.000-07:00Ginger! I'm APPALLED to think a publisher did thi...Ginger! I'm APPALLED to think a publisher did this to you!!! Obviously this publisher is NOT professional and doesn't know what the hell they're doing. Get them out of here, I say! We don't need authors to get sucked into a place like this.<BR/><BR/>My heart aches for your problems, and I can't believe someone did this to you TWICE...by the same people. Once again, I'll refer back to this very unprofessional publisher. Take Kim Chatel's suggestion. Report this to Istock!<BR/><BR/><BR/>I hope this publisher stops stalking you. You are an AWESOME writer and you are better off without them. I'll rally in your corner any day!!!Phyllis Campbellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14769290385657892832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8915423025917785375.post-76390363906662694502008-04-03T12:45:00.000-07:002008-04-03T12:45:00.000-07:00Ginger, I agree with Kim and Sloane and the others...Ginger, I agree with Kim and Sloane and the others. You paid to have this cover and your ex-publisher does not have exclusive rights to it unless that's what they paid for. I think your cover suits your novel perfectly, and don't let anyone push you around. iStockphoto should be made away of what your ex-publisher is doing. By the way, who is that spiteful individual who authors ought to steer clear of? Wishing you much luck in getting this resolved to YOUR satisfaction.<BR/><BR/>Best,Elena Dorothy Bowmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03401543784385731565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8915423025917785375.post-91240400038339410512008-04-03T11:11:00.000-07:002008-04-03T11:11:00.000-07:00I just have to say that I am continually astonishe...I just have to say that I am continually astonished by how vindictive your ex-publishing house is. Their actions border on stalking and most certainly cross the line when it comes to bullying. They are not only telling a person who is no longer contracted with them what to do, they are telling other publishing houses what to do.<BR/><BR/>Having put up with their unprofessional behavior myself, I can only sympathize with you, Ginger and wish you luck in the future.<BR/><BR/>One would think that the publishing house in question would have better things to do than keep track of someone no longer with them.Anna Kathryn Lanierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10607469543348819190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8915423025917785375.post-60760825124187931622008-04-03T09:13:00.000-07:002008-04-03T09:13:00.000-07:00I find this astonishing and ludicrously spiteful, ...I find this astonishing and ludicrously spiteful, too. You know how much I adore my cover for Masquerade, but I've already found it on at least one other cover - and as background in others. That's the nature of stock photography.<BR/>I also think you should alert iStockphoto about this, though I have every sympathy with you, not wanting any more personal grief over this.<BR/>*hugs*Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8915423025917785375.post-80689266269500512372008-04-03T09:04:00.000-07:002008-04-03T09:04:00.000-07:00I agree with Kim also. I can't count how many time...I agree with Kim also. I can't count how many times I've seen certain other covers. With the same image, in a little different color, or shade. <BR/><BR/>Good Luck!<BR/>MaryMaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03983349083176213853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8915423025917785375.post-28868022719762542722008-04-03T08:12:00.000-07:002008-04-03T08:12:00.000-07:00I agree with Kim. Use your word power, Ging. This ...I agree with Kim. Use your word power, Ging. This is a deplorable situation.Sloane Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05455715196493185203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8915423025917785375.post-12145492074377339352008-04-03T07:47:00.000-07:002008-04-03T07:47:00.000-07:00Ginger, as an iStockphoto contributor I abhor what...Ginger, as an iStockphoto contributor I abhor what this person did to you. Only the photographer holds the copyright to photos on iStockphoto. This publisher has no right to insist that you use a different photo. I would suggest that you send a letter to iStockphoto explaining the situation. They won't be happy either. The whole purpose of iStockphoto is to sell the same image repeatedly. If this publisher did not pay the higher rate for an exclusive right to the photo, then they will be in trouble. I wouldn't be surprised if iStockphoto reprimands them.castelanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08340402191651620080noreply@blogger.com